Comments on: Denver Craft Beer Overview – Part I http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/ Starting a Brewery Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:39:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: melomel http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-147 melomel Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:21:35 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-147 You can read about our Denver Honeymoon here: http://www.bathtubbrewery.com/2010/01/11/honeymooning-in-denver-a-homebrewers-dream-part-i/ and here: http://www.bathtubbrewery.com/2010/01/20/honeymooning-in-denver-a-homebrewers-dream-part-ii/ Cheers! You can read about our Denver Honeymoon here: http://www.bathtubbrewery.com/2010/01/11/honeymooning-in-denver-a-homebrewers-dream-part-i/

and here:
http://www.bathtubbrewery.com/2010/01/20/honeymooning-in-denver-a-homebrewers-dream-part-ii/

Cheers!

]]> By: PJ Hoberman » I like beer. It makes me a jolly good fellow! (Rackhouse Pub Review) http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-139 PJ Hoberman » I like beer. It makes me a jolly good fellow! (Rackhouse Pub Review) Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:04:16 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-139 [...] finished the night with a Breckenridge Christmas Ale. I’ve said before my feelings on Breckenridge beers. Allowing for that bias, I think the beer was pretty good. Not [...] [...] finished the night with a Breckenridge Christmas Ale. I’ve said before my feelings on Breckenridge beers. Allowing for that bias, I think the beer was pretty good. Not [...]

]]> By: Greg Koch http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Greg Koch Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:30:07 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-24 Actually, I believe that the lax laws on the distribution side of the equation has worked to hamper the beer scene in Denver (and all of CO). There's what I might call a semi-Tied House reality there. Brewers can decide to discount their beers to a certain bar, effectively (and often intentionally) shutting out other brands. Thus some bars don't make decisions on the beers that they carry based upon diversity, selection, or what they think the *best* beers are, but based instead on which brands give them the best perks. CO, along with IL are the two most lax states. Yes, a terrific craft beer scene is in CO (and IL) and I count myself among the many fans. However, it is my opinion that Denver is not a more mature craft beer market because the rule of the day is often more of competition (and shutting the competition out) versus cooperation. Other than a handful of known (and wonderful) craft beer bars in Denver, the selection one might find narrows down but quick. There are many other cities in which you'll find diversity and selection all over the place. Please note that this is not a knock against Denver or CO, but a commentary on some of the lax laws and the business practices that take place as a result. It is my opinion that with tighter laws, the craft beer scene in pubs and restaurants would be poised to take an incredible leap forward. If I'm in Philly, Seattle, San Diego, Portland, NY (and others), you'll find me in one of about 20 or so different great beer spots in each of those cities. If I'm in Denver, you'll find me in one of about five great beer spots. Denver should have more. Once again, I am a fan of Denver. I am a fan of the CO craft brewing scene. Cheers, Greg Actually, I believe that the lax laws on the distribution side of the equation has worked to hamper the beer scene in Denver (and all of CO). There’s what I might call a semi-Tied House reality there. Brewers can decide to discount their beers to a certain bar, effectively (and often intentionally) shutting out other brands. Thus some bars don’t make decisions on the beers that they carry based upon diversity, selection, or what they think the *best* beers are, but based instead on which brands give them the best perks. CO, along with IL are the two most lax states. Yes, a terrific craft beer scene is in CO (and IL) and I count myself among the many fans. However, it is my opinion that Denver is not a more mature craft beer market because the rule of the day is often more of competition (and shutting the competition out) versus cooperation. Other than a handful of known (and wonderful) craft beer bars in Denver, the selection one might find narrows down but quick. There are many other cities in which you’ll find diversity and selection all over the place.

Please note that this is not a knock against Denver or CO, but a commentary on some of the lax laws and the business practices that take place as a result. It is my opinion that with tighter laws, the craft beer scene in pubs and restaurants would be poised to take an incredible leap forward.

If I’m in Philly, Seattle, San Diego, Portland, NY (and others), you’ll find me in one of about 20 or so different great beer spots in each of those cities. If I’m in Denver, you’ll find me in one of about five great beer spots. Denver should have more.

Once again, I am a fan of Denver. I am a fan of the CO craft brewing scene.

Cheers,

Greg

]]> By: PJ Hoberman http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-23 PJ Hoberman Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:15:12 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-23 I'm glad you enjoyed it! Please let me know of some of your favorite spots, should you come across any new ones, and let me know if you want me to go explore a new spot as well. I'm always willing :) I’m glad you enjoyed it! Please let me know of some of your favorite spots, should you come across any new ones, and let me know if you want me to go explore a new spot as well. I’m always willing :)

]]> By: PJ Hoberman http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-22 PJ Hoberman Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:19 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-22 So true! I should have looked at that better before writing it. I was basing my location statement off the <a href="http://www.coloradobeer.org/brewers.html" rel="nofollow">Colorado Brewer's Guild site</a>, which still lists Breck as being based in Breck. Thanks for pointing that out! So true! I should have looked at that better before writing it. I was basing my location statement off the Colorado Brewer’s Guild site, which still lists Breck as being based in Breck. Thanks for pointing that out!

]]> By: PJ Hoberman http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-21 PJ Hoberman Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:11:54 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-21 I am cool with PBR winning.. Please don't take my blog away from me for saying that! I am cool with PBR winning..

Please don’t take my blog away from me for saying that!

]]> By: PJ Hoberman http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-20 PJ Hoberman Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:11:22 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-20 I do drink a lot of beer... ;) Thanks for the note. I do drink a lot of beer… ;) Thanks for the note.

]]> By: PJ Hoberman http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-19 PJ Hoberman Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:10:20 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-19 I totally agree that tastes differ person to person. I don't think that people neglect that, though. Maybe I'm wrong there, but I definitely apply the qualifier of "this is what I think, your thoughts may differ" when reading reviews. Granted, obviously not everyone tends to make that distinction. So, official fine print: <em>My reviews of beer are based on my own tastes. You may agree or disagree. No one will think less of you for having a different experience.</em> Thanks for reading and commenting, tdtm82. I totally agree that tastes differ person to person. I don’t think that people neglect that, though. Maybe I’m wrong there, but I definitely apply the qualifier of “this is what I think, your thoughts may differ” when reading reviews.

Granted, obviously not everyone tends to make that distinction. So, official fine print:

My reviews of beer are based on my own tastes. You may agree or disagree. No one will think less of you for having a different experience.

Thanks for reading and commenting, tdtm82.

]]> By: ratman197 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-18 ratman197 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:04:32 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-18 Breckenridges production brewery is in Denver at 471 Kalamath. While the one in Breckenridge is the original all major production has taken place in Denver for about 10 years. Breckenridges production brewery is in Denver at 471 Kalamath. While the one in Breckenridge is the original all major production has taken place in Denver for about 10 years.

]]> By: tdtm82 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/2009/11/20/denver-craft-beer-overview-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-17 tdtm82 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:19:19 +0000 http://pjhoberman.hoppress.com/?p=21#comment-17 All of it is actually flawed because none of them have YOUR pallet. Only your pallet can judge if you like this or that Some beer also travels badly. People neglect that when reviewing. All of it is actually flawed because none of them have YOUR pallet. Only your pallet can judge if you like this or that Some beer also travels badly. People neglect that when reviewing.

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